baconmeteor ([info]baconmeteor) wrote,
@ 2006-10-24 20:14:00
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работник центра
Anyone have a good suggestion for how to translate работник центра? The phrase occurs in chapter 8:

Товарищ Поцелуев -- известный работник центра, наш горожанин. Теперь из Москвы в отпуск приехал.


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[info]phd_paul_lector
2006-10-24 12:21 pm UTC (link)
He was not a provincial boss... perhaps, "a renowed worker from the Capital, and he comes from our place; now he's on his leave (vacations) here"

of course из центра does not necessarily mean that he was from Moscow or even St.Petersburg; just Chernomorsk was a provincial place so Comrade Plotskiy-Potseluev (I wonder if you should make footnotes for such names as Плотский-Поцелуев (плоть+целовать), МЕдуза-Горгонер, even Балаганов & Паниковский) could work in any bu\ig city - like for examle Kiev.

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[info]baconmeteor
2006-10-24 12:28 pm UTC (link)
The question of how to tackle proper names is a difficult one and we've put it off until the first draft is finished. Some (like Panikovski and Meduza-Gorgoner) are funny in transliteration, others (like Balaganov) are probably hopeless.

I think the translation could use a short preface about Soviet language and how it is parodied in the book; that might be a good place to gloss some of the names. If anyone wants to start writing one, I'd be happy to translate it...

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[info]pargentum
2006-10-24 12:32 pm UTC (link)
Balaganov==Buffooneerov?

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[info]baconmeteor
2006-10-24 01:05 pm UTC (link)
No

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[info]doxla
2007-01-03 10:46 pm UTC (link)
boother?

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[info]tyrex
2006-10-24 12:25 pm UTC (link)
"центр" means "capital" here.

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[info]phd_paul_lector
2006-10-24 01:29 pm UTC (link)
ленинградский чиновник для Черноморска тоже "из центра"

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[info]phd_paul_lector
2006-10-24 01:30 pm UTC (link)
а тем более для этого городишки

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[info]pargentum
2006-10-24 12:28 pm UTC (link)
Functioneer of some central bureaucratical organization. "известный работник центра" implies relatively high-rank functioneer.

This episode reflects the degree of cenralization of Soviet Union. Bureaucrats from Moscow were considered well above in social status that any functioneer of regional level.

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[info]oryx_and_crake
2006-10-24 01:05 pm UTC (link)
"relatively high-rank"
Not that it is so important but they might be exaggerating, deliberately or not. For a one-horse town like the one described in this episode anyone who comes from the capital is regarded as a high-rank functioneer. See "историю о двойной жизни товарища Портищева" from Ilf and Petrov's "1001 день, или новая Шахерезада":

" В родную свою деревню, отстоявшую за шестьдесят километров от столицы,
приезжал уже не мощный профработник, не борец за идею, не товарищ Портищев,
а Елисей Максимович Портищев.
На станции его ожидала пароконная рессорная телега. По дороге в деревню
встречные мужики прочувствованно ему кланялись, и он отвечал им гордым
наклонением головы.
(...)
В воскресенье Елисей Максимович обязательно заходил с визитом в
сельскую ячейку. В ячейке его, городского коммуниста, очень боялись и вместе
с прочими крестьянами считали, что Портищев все может. Если захочет, то и
деревню упразднит."

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[info]dil
2006-10-24 01:05 pm UTC (link)
Means he's now working in a capital as opposed to the provinces, i.e. he made a good career. AFAIK it's not so important in the States so I cannot suggest an adequate phrase.

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